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Post by purplestorm on Sept 10, 2017 2:03:21 GMT
I know. I'm trying to be level-headed and reasonable about all this, but it's like Ground Hog Day every fall. I'm sick of the movie. I just don't want to watch it anymore.
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Post by TrackDemon on Sept 10, 2017 2:19:10 GMT
Meanwhile Tech is getting humiliated on their homefield by Miss State
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Post by purplestorm on Sept 10, 2017 2:23:18 GMT
They are, but they'll end up with a winning season that will be seen as successful. And they've been regularly successful over the years. We haven't.
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Post by purplestorm on Sept 10, 2017 2:31:43 GMT
Here's a stat for you: Nicholls has put more yards on TAMU than we did Grambling. And they have held TAMU to fewer yards than we did Grambling. Let that sink in.
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Post by TrackDemon on Sept 10, 2017 2:37:07 GMT
Here's a stat for you: Nicholls has put more yards on TAMU than we did Grambling. And they have held TAMU to fewer yards than we did Grambling. Let that sink in. Tonight was a massive faire for the program. A mediocre Tech team ran it up on us and a mid tier FCS team handled us. Unless we figure something out it is going to be a BAD year.
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Post by purplestorm on Sept 10, 2017 2:49:09 GMT
Yep. We had a chance to beat a lower mid-tier, at best, FCS team and be 1-1 ... headed home to Natchitoches pumped up to play Lamar and go 2-1. Winning is infectious as we all know. Then, if we could accomplish that feat, we'd be highly motivated when we lined up against SLU at home. All of a sudden the crowd starts showing back up ... excitement, along with cooler temperatures, begins to fill the air. The players feel the energy and feed off of it and go on and upset SLU. Not that SLU is that tough anymore. They're not the team they were. Now, we're 3-1 and ready for a very tough stretch against Nicholls, Sam and UCA. Afterwards, we're 3-4, but we fought valiantly and almost win one of these games. Then, we take care of Houston Baptist and Abilene and are 5-4 heading into Lake Charles. We play lights out and break the curse of 20+ years and upset a McNeese team that isn't its normal self these days. Then we head home and finish off SFA and roll to a 7-4 season and we start looking up and forward as the program is making a turnaround. That's what "could" have happened. Now, unless these coaches find some magic motivation, we'll likely lose to Lamar. If that happens, the only two games I could possibly see us winning are Houston Baptist and Abilene. Maybe SFA. Even if we get lucky and beat Lamar, there's no guarantee that motivation would carry over into beating SLU. Tonight's loss is the difference in a potential winning season and another losing season. It was the hinge game. And we shit the bed.
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Post by NSU2003 on Sept 10, 2017 14:11:33 GMT
We are now the nicholls state of the 90's and most of the 00's...the SLC team you play that for the most part if a "guaranteed win"...let that sink in.
Meanwhile, with less resources...nicholls has been able to put together competitive teams the past few season. Embarrassing...
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Post by NSU2003 on Sept 10, 2017 14:14:57 GMT
Yep. We had a chance to beat a lower mid-tier, at best, FCS team and be 1-1 ... headed home to Natchitoches pumped up to play Lamar and go 2-1. Winning is infectious as we all know. Then, if we could accomplish that feat, we'd be highly motivated when we lined up against SLU at home. All of a sudden the crowd starts showing back up ... excitement, along with cooler temperatures, begins to fill the air. The players feel the energy and feed off of it and go on and upset SLU. Not that SLU is that tough anymore. They're not the team they were. Now, we're 3-1 and ready for a very tough stretch against Nicholls, Sam and UCA. Afterwards, we're 3-4, but we fought valiantly and almost win one of these games. Then, we take care of Houston Baptist and Abilene and are 5-4 heading into Lake Charles. We play lights out and break the curse of 20+ years and upset a McNeese team that isn't its normal self these days. Then we head home and finish off SFA and roll to a 7-4 season and we start looking up and forward as the program is making a turnaround. That's what "could" have happened. Now, unless these coaches find some magic motivation, we'll likely lose to Lamar. If that happens, the only two games I could possibly see us winning are Houston Baptist and Abilene. Maybe SFA. Even if we get lucky and beat Lamar, there's no guarantee that motivation would carry over into beating SLU. Tonight's loss is the difference in a potential winning season and another losing season. It was the hinge game. And we shit the bed. And we wonder why nobody goes to the games. Next weekend will be the first game I've attended since the 2015 season. And in my younger years would attend 2 games a season...not anymore. And the only reason why I'll be there is because I'm bringing 17 of my band students to the NSU band day...these days, thanks to youtube, instead of missing out on watching us lose and also missing out on the SoN I just watch the halftime show the next day after it's been uploaded. Win, win...except for the football team, which is usually a lose, lose.
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Post by AndrewN on Sept 10, 2017 15:52:29 GMT
Mannnnnnnn. I love how yall just thought Grambling was going to be a cake walk. They are a well coached team by a former demon coach by the way. Offense looked bad. Cant run the ball so we wont be able to win games. and by the way, we dont play Abilene this season dude
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Post by purplestorm on Sept 10, 2017 16:00:16 GMT
I never thought Grambling would be a cakewalk. They've never been a cakewalk. But, they are still SWAC. And if your desire is to be upper-tier FCS, you don't lose to SWAC teams. That was my point. I don't dislike Grambling and in their day, they were awesome, but those days are long gone. Now, Grambling is just awesome among HBCU's. If Grambling really wants to prove themselves, they'll step into the FCS playoffs. Then, we'll see the truth. That said, I have a lot of respect for Coach Fobbs and think he can move up in the world in coaching, for sure. Obviously, it's not just NSU. The Southland is way down as Bethune-Cookman (MEAC) just beat Southeastern last night, too. In the end, I tip my hat to Grambling for beating us. It's not personal. My frustration is solely on NSU's football leaders. Not even the kids. It boils down to coaching and we can't hold Laird responsible because he just got here. BTW, we do play Abilene ... November 4.
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Post by gsu90 on Sept 10, 2017 18:52:58 GMT
I never thought Grambling would be a cakewalk. They've never been a cakewalk. But, they are still SWAC. And if your desire is to be upper-tier FCS, you don't lose to SWAC teams. That was my point. I don't dislike Grambling and in their day, they were awesome, but those days are long gone. Now, Grambling is just awesome among HBCU's. If Grambling really wants to prove themselves, they'll step into the FCS playoffs. Then, we'll see the truth. That said, I have a lot of respect for Coach Fobbs and think he can move up in the world in coaching, for sure. Obviously, it's not just NSU. The Southland is way down as Bethune-Cookman (MEAC) just beat Southeastern last night, too. In the end, I tip my hat to Grambling for beating us. It's not personal. My frustration is solely on NSU's football leaders. Not even the kids. It boils down to coaching and we can't hold Laird responsible because he just got here. BTW, we do play Abilene ... November 4.Being Being that you are an NSU fan, I guess I can appreciate your frustration. It comes with the territory. However, it's too simplistic to think just because Grambling plays in the SWAC, that somehow, NSU should have automatically won. Historically speaking, that argument alone is flawed considering that NSU has only beaten Grambling ONCE in the four times the two schools have played against each other. Grambling fans are not surprised by the outcome of yesterday's game. We expected to win it. There was no concern in thinking we would lose it. We are a nationally ranked program that led that game from beginning to end. The outcome was never in question. We were favored to win and we did. As for your point about the SLC being down, I agree with you. Sam Houston State, a team that showed how overrated it is, was lucky to leave Prairie View (a SWAC team) with a win last Thursday. Prairie View plays Nichols State this Saturday...another SWAC/SLC contest. Alcorn State (who lost Friday night to FIU by 7 points) will play McNeese this Saturday in Lake Charles. SELU indeed lost to Bethune-Cookman, a MEAC team. Keep in mind, BCU plays in the same conference as Howard. The team that beat UNLV last week and fell short to Kent State yesterday. Kent State lost to North Carolina A&T (a MEAC School) last year.
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Post by purplestorm on Sept 10, 2017 20:50:26 GMT
G-Man,
Good afternoon. First of all, congratulations on the win. Grambling outplayed us and deserved the victory. You should have expected to beat us. We won one game last year and it was over a very poor DII team. And it took us into the second-half to pull away from them. Don't get too excited with your record over us, though. It's 2-1-1. And I'm confident we'll even that up the next time we meet in Natchitoches, be it next year or the next. Now, on to my view on the SWAC, or MEAC. It's not personal. In fact, whenever Grambling or Southern are playing a team from out of state, I will pull for them. And sometimes in-state. That said, it is widely understood that the SWAC and MEAC are the poorest conferences in FCS. This is factual, especially top-to-bottom. Now, whenever a team like NC A&T or Howard beats an FBS team or a Grambling pushes an Arizona, trust me, we all cheer. All FCS fans love a good David vs. Goliath battle. We're not your enemy, man. But, we're not drinking the Kool-Aid. If the SWAC and MEAC truly want to prove themselves in the FCS and not pretend the rest of us don't exist while fighting it out over a so-called "National Championship," then you need to compete in the FCS playoffs. The best in the SWAC and MEAC, those that are supposedly nationally ranked, should be able to compete in the FCS playoffs, right? Move the Bayou Classic up a week and then prepare to compete with the best in the country ... just like everyone else. Neither the SWAC, nor the MEAC, have won an FCS playoff game that I'm aware of. I thought Hampton won one in the past, but I don't think so. That same NC A&T team that bested Kent State last year? They were defeated in the first round of the playoffs by Richmond by four touchdowns. Now, you made a bold statement saying Sam Houston State was overrated. A team that has flourished the last decade and done lots of damage in the FCS playoffs ... and played for two real national championships. If you truly believe that, call Coach Fobbs tomorrow and beg him to call Coach Keeler in Huntsville and sign them up in a home-and-home. Also, if you think Alcorn is going to beat McNeese or Prairie View is going to beat Nicholls, I think you might be disappointed. Now, anything is possible, but I seriously doubt it will happen. I have begged my HCBU friends, and I have plenty, to ditch this all-inclusive, mythical national championship and join the rest of us in FCS. IF that were to ever happen, you'd see respect for SWAC and MEAC increase exponentially. It's why Tennessee State gets a lot of respect now. I realize geographically that they fit better in the Ohio Valley, but they are a better football program for taking on tougher competition, top-to-bottom. Finally, I've long been for an all-Louisiana conference including ULM, Grambling, NSU, McNeese, ULL, Southern, SLU and Nicholls. But, it won't happen. Too much pride on the high end and delusion on the low end. If it did happen, every stadium would have plenty of butts in seats every weekend. And that isn't happening as much anymore these days ... anywhere. Good luck the rest of the season. You deserve to win the SWAC again and compete with Howard or whomever for your national championship. But, ask yourself ... why is that enough? Don't you want to know where you really stand? I mean, there's only one real champion at the end of the year in FCS and that is James Madison, for now.
Peace, Purple Storm
P.S. FAMU did win the 1st ever I-AA (now FCS) National Championship. But, they weren't in the MEAC at the time. This was also during the time of the heyday of the SWAC and other HBCU universities. I will give you this, in Grambling's heyday, they were the 2nd best team in Louisiana some years. Without a doubt.
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Post by gsu90 on Sept 10, 2017 22:56:31 GMT
Well, I can tell you now. I'm one who believes it's OK to have your cake and eat it too. It would be foolish for the SWAC and MEAC to give up games like the Celebration Bowl or to move the Bayou Classic just for the purpose of making the playoffs. As I'm sure you already know, college athletics is a business. And it simply wouldn't be in the best (financial) interest of the SWAC or MEAC to mess with those games especially when it's been proven that schools lose money participating in the playoffs. However, because the conference (the SWAC) is aware of how woeful the teams have been against nonconference opponents in the past, the regular season scheduling was modified (reduced) to 7 games so that member schools could play more nonconference teams. As a result, Fobbs is scheduling more regional teams like NSU, and plans to schedule NcNeese, Nichols and so forth. Only time will tell what the win-loss results will be. There is no reason why we can't kick some SLC but and still win an HBCU championship too. We don't need to participate in the FCS playoffs to know where we stand.
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Post by TrackDemon on Sept 10, 2017 23:44:00 GMT
No one thought GSU would be an "easy" game. We all knew GSU would be tough but as a program we should be at the point where we are in a position to win these games and once again we were not.
Grambling out coached and out played us. Absolutely nothing against them. We all respect Grambling and Coach Fobb.
Best of luck to the Tigers, really good ball club.
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Post by purplestorm on Sept 11, 2017 0:14:12 GMT
G-Man,
Hey, I already knew what the answer was going to be. I hear it ALL the time. No worries. We'll see you next time. BTW, you won't find anyone at NSU that doesn't like, love or respect Coach Fobbs. Glad to see y'all scheduling regional opponents again. Now, go ahead on and add UCA and Sam to that list ... I mean ... it's one game and you can stil have your cake and eat it, too. Good luck the rest of the year.
Later, Purple Storm
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