Is Development of Talent a Real Issue?

[seat16demon]

Well, I understand the angst about the football program, but let the soccer team have their due. They are working hard and should get some props. Greg and Doug are tooting the horn that is shiny right now; nothing wrong with that. Patience is a virtue that is made in the fire of trials, and we are certainly in an inferno with football.

[Cajundemon11]

I agree, and good for them. But its "all good in the land" meanwhile the football program (which lets be honest is the most important sport) is a complete dumpster fire. I feel like most of us on here are more pissed off about it and angry than the coaching staff and administration.

[NSU2003]

Dec 6, 2016 17:13:01 GMT seat16demon said:

Well, I understand the angst about the football program, but let the soccer team have their due. They are working hard and should get some props. Greg and Doug are tooting the horn that is shiny right now; nothing wrong with that. Patience is a virtue that is made in the fire of trials, and we are certainly in an inferno with football.

Almost a decade long inferno...

[Insider knowledge]

The problem is the AD, Greg Burke. The weight room is terrible. The training room is on the second floor of a building without an elevator. The coaches offices are on the 3rd floor. Think about that for a minute...(the building is too old to need to comply with ADA). If you're in a wheel chair or on crutches, or even have a lower leg injury, you can't get to 2/3 of the places where you would need to without extreme difficulty. The stadium it's self is on par for the conference, but the facilities on the whole are awful.
There is no practice field, they use the stadium. The grass field they "say they have" is a parking lot on Saturday.
The coaches are on a constant rotation because the pay is non existent and the benefits don't exist for for 2/9 of the coaches. 2 of the coaches don't have health insurance, or dental, or a retirement plan, and they make less than $20,000, they damn near the poverty line. Not to mention in FCS you can hire 11 on field coaches but NSU can only afford 9 and 2 of those 9 are part time. How do you expect to win? You have to be delusional.
Not w/o dramtatic fund raising efforts by the AD. Who does none, and not on a large enough scale, minus taking the football team to play SEC/Big 12 opponents for a pay check, which he takes credit for. Any joker can do that.
The commitment to football is not there. Softball, yes, basketball, yes, baseball, yes, football, no. Football only remains to keep the profile up and the other sports D1.
Nichols and NSU are the same. McNesse will always be the best, and the TX schools will be even better. It's just the way it is. Football is about money and NSU ain't raising none, not that goes to football at least.
Finally, when Stoker got "too big" Burke canned him. That's cowardice at its finest.

[demontodemon]

Dec 7, 2016 23:47:29 GMT Insider knowledge said:

The problem is the AD, Greg Burke. The weight room is terrible. The training room is on the second floor of a building without an elevator. The coaches offices are on the 3rd floor. Think about that for a minute...(the building is too old to need to comply with ADA). If you're in a wheel chair or on crutches, or even have a lower leg injury, you can't get to 2/3 of the places where you would need to without extreme difficulty. The stadium it's self is on par for the conference, but the facilities on the whole are awful.
There is no practice field, they use the stadium. The grass field they "say they have" is a parking lot on Saturday.
The coaches are on a constant rotation because the pay is non existent and the benefits don't exist for for 2/9 of the coaches. 2 of the coaches don't have health insurance, or dental, or a retirement plan, and they make less than $20,000, they damn near the poverty line. Not to mention in FCS you can hire 11 on field coaches but NSU can only afford 9 and 2 of those 9 are part time. How do you expect to win? You have to be delusional.
Not w/o dramtatic fund raising efforts by the AD. Who does none, and not on a large enough scale, minus taking the football team to play SEC/Big 12 opponents for a pay check, which he takes credit for. Any joker can do that.
The commitment to football is not there. Softball, yes, basketball, yes, baseball, yes, football, no. Football only remains to keep the profile up and the other sports D1.
Nichols and NSU are the same. McNesse will always be the best, and the TX schools will be even better. It's just the way it is. Football is about money and NSU ain't raising none, not that goes to football at least.
Finally, when Stoker got "too big" Burke canned him. That's cowardice at its finest.

Yea, I've always gotten a bad vibe from the guy as long as I've been following the program.

[Cajundemon11]

Dec 7, 2016 23:47:29 GMT Insider knowledge said:

The problem is the AD, Greg Burke. The weight room is terrible. The training room is on the second floor of a building without an elevator. The coaches offices are on the 3rd floor. Think about that for a minute...(the building is too old to need to comply with ADA). If you're in a wheel chair or on crutches, or even have a lower leg injury, you can't get to 2/3 of the places where you would need to without extreme difficulty. The stadium it's self is on par for the conference, but the facilities on the whole are awful.
There is no practice field, they use the stadium. The grass field they "say they have" is a parking lot on Saturday.
The coaches are on a constant rotation because the pay is non existent and the benefits don't exist for for 2/9 of the coaches. 2 of the coaches don't have health insurance, or dental, or a retirement plan, and they make less than $20,000, they damn near the poverty line. Not to mention in FCS you can hire 11 on field coaches but NSU can only afford 9 and 2 of those 9 are part time. How do you expect to win? You have to be delusional.
Not w/o dramtatic fund raising efforts by the AD. Who does none, and not on a large enough scale, minus taking the football team to play SEC/Big 12 opponents for a pay check, which he takes credit for. Any joker can do that.
The commitment to football is not there. Softball, yes, basketball, yes, baseball, yes, football, no. Football only remains to keep the profile up and the other sports D1.
Nichols and NSU are the same. McNesse will always be the best, and the TX schools will be even better. It's just the way it is. Football is about money and NSU ain't raising none, not that goes to football at least.
Finally, when Stoker got "too big" Burke canned him. That's cowardice at its finest.

I'm going to correct you on a few things here. The facilities are not awful, we have a recent player on here (demons16 i believe) who can attest to that being a non issue. Is it the finest? No, but in no way is it the reason we are non competitive on the field. Struggling to see how the coaches offices being on the third floor is a problem. Weight room is small, not awful. Equipment is fine, Ive even heard from a few players they love the feel of it, just need to add some space. Have you actually been in the field house recently? the coaches offices and the room that looks out on to the field is pretty cool. Not a dump by any means. 

It is extremely common for teams on our level to use their own stadium for practice. I know for an absolute fact Sam houston, Sfa, and several other schools with on campus stadiums do the exact same thing. Even FBS schools do that. Non issue. 

Jay Thomas salary is very competitive for our conference as is for the coordinators. Do some research on that. The coaches you speak of that aren't making that much money are what is called a "restricted earnings coach" very common and almost every coach coming out of his graduate assistant year will do that to get a foot in the door. Seriously man, just look into some of these things. 

Fundraising could always be better, Ill agree with you there. Not going to vent about Greg Burke, like I said I think he's happy about the things that "matter" to him like APR and GPA of student athletes. Which is great, don't get me wrong, but doesn't come anywhere close to having a winning football team in regards to getting the name of the school out there and attracting more students on campus. 


Stoker needed to go.  Hiring Peveto was the real linch pin to this whole thing going down the tubes. 

[James]

I agree that Greg Burke is one of the major factors in the lack of success of the football program. I coached under an AD that didn't care much about the football program. Every decision regarding football was made out of convenience and simplicity. He didn't put any thought or effort into building the program or making it competitive. He hired head coaches that were easy to hire. Those that didn't have other options or, that moved around because they weren't successful at their prior jobs. The fact that the school no longer has a football program speaks for his management abilities. The way that he ran the program was very simliar to NSU. His decisions made my brain hurt because no matter how much I tried to understand them I couldn't. That's why I got out of coaching football. It was terrible for anyone that enjoys football. Especially the players.
The facilities at NSU are fine. Not the best, but good. The weight room does need to be enlarged, but they have the equipment to make solid gains. They just need to get in there and use it the right way. They can use a few prowler push sleds. They are great training tools.
The practice field isn't used because of holes and the danger they cause. It is just safer to practice on the turf.
Coaches salaries are for the most part competitive with other FCS schools. We just aren't getting much for our money.
It really doesn't matter what brought the program to this point of futility, the correct changes need to be made ASAP.

[TexasDemon]

I tend to agree on the Greg Burke comment. If you consider all sports equal then yes, he runs a pretty nice program. Most sports are competitive and closing in on Southland Conference Championships (which should always be the goal). Unfortunately, not all sports are equal. Women's soccer had a great year, and I'm proud of that group. A lot of the members of that team are my friends. But I've been to games.. it's basically a handful of students and the players' parents. No one cares. Football is the main ticket every day, all day and twice on Sunday's.
Also, it's great to have a record high APR and that's something that Burke is proud of and should be proud of. But I'd rather be flirting with a possible postseason suspension for low APR and winning championships than reading articles about how great of a season we had because we broke our APR record whilst going 1-10.

But I digress.

The quality of the field house is not superb. On a 1-5 scale I'd give it a solid 3. There are cool parts of it and there are parts that look 87 years old. Honestly I didn't care too much throughout my time there.
The issue of leg injuries and reaching the training room is a real problem. Going up stairs that are usually wet with crutches is a dangerous and I've seen guys fall. Pretty dumb design but it's an issue maybe 6 times a year.

The quality of the weight room being poor is a joke. The weight room is pretty sweet. It's small, yes, but it's a dang sweat shop and we loved it. More room is always better, and I don't think anyone would be opposed to remodeling it, but it is far from poor quality.

As for the workout plan. I know for a fact that the lack of strength training and conditioning mid-season is coming from the head coach. Our strength coach is a wizard and the one we had before him was even better. They both have told me they wish they had full control so they could push us harder during the season. You wonder why we had 37 guys injured at the end of the year, that's a large part of it.
Also, during the off-season the strength coaches can't even run their own program. When players should be heavy lifting and putting on max weight gains, Coach T has them out there running curves (which is something he saw Deion Sanders do at Florida State years ago so now we have to do it cause look at how well it worked for him) which completely throws off the rest of the week. Again, this isn't just my opinion. I've had talks with the other coaches and none of them want to be out there cause it's pointless, if not detrimental.

I don't really know how to wrap up this novel, so I guess I'll just say I'm excited to see what Laird brings to the table. I hope he brings in some talented, hungry coordinators. Fork Em

[NSUForever!]

Why haven't we offered Craig Davis from Huntington High School in Shreveport? He's one of he most talented and overlooked players in the state!

[DemonDawgDays]

The issue is both. First, the weight room sucks. It was good for us in the 80's and through the 90's. A graduate assistant a few years back actually earned extra cash from Peveto to refinish the plyo boxes in the weight room. Thomas just had the locker room fixed, had issues with staff. That carpet wasn't changed since the early 2000's. That's terrible for any carpet, but especially the diseases that they found on them several years ago. I think Tammie Pezant and Chuck Bourge ran tests on them, told Greg they needed replaced. Short time after Chuck was fired and carpet was left. The strength program hasn't been given the proper authority it deserves. They have to hire young people because the salary is so low and insignificant it doesn't work. Going back to Joe Long's days I had not seen a player truly develop into much more than he already was. Some of that comes with the nutrition that they can't offer. The rest comes from players like demons16 who probably spend more time on a message board than in the gym.

The injuries that have been sustained are a reflection of the workout program as well as the training department. Jason is probably the worst I've seen at any school and that includes when my nephews played at Louisiana College. They can't keep kids healthy, they have poor diagnosis of injuries and it's just awful. It's a wonder they even have wraps or ice bags. Seems to me the new Dr. isn't doing anyone any favors either. Miss Haley told a group of us that he had two incidents where the surgeries were fumbled. One football player re-injured/tore his knee up again and then we all know what happened to Jalen West. Direct reflection of poor choices by Greg Burke and the whole athletic department.

The coaches evaluation of talent goes back to the salaries offered. You get what you pay for. Thomas' salary is at the BOTTOM of the Southland. Nicholls pays their guy $20,000 more and you'll never catch Rebowe driving his own car or some wrecked ass jeep with fishing poles in the back. And yes Manley as the recruiting coordinator is awful. Heard from several coaches in North Louisiana that they only hear from him when camps are up. May also be why the kid in Shreveport isn't offered. I just hope he is a better OC than odd ball Norton. Norton may be a good coach, but I can see why he struggles with women. His play calling is questionable.

It is also apparent that everyone that is a Demon thinks their children need to be a Demon too or their nephew or their neighborhood athlete needs to be at Northwestern. I hear it from friends all the time, "If they would just offer my #&$^#*@, we would win." If I hear Almonds grandpa say one more time, "If James David was starting they would be scoring points." He must have missed the game where he put everything he had into a throw and it landed 10 yards too short. I wanted to bring a transfer in or pull T-Kenny's redshirt last season. Blumenthal's best decision was to leave the program. Yeah Manley you are hot garbage.

I have seen some progress in certain position groups, but until the players have a weightroom fit for a D1 program (Ours was, but it has fallen behind on account from the lack of support given to its upkeep by the administration). The players need reliable medical attention. I like Jason, little weird, but he sucks at his job and the new surgeon is not on Leddy's level. For what you pay the coaches you are getting a bargain out of some and losing very little by paying the others. Jerry Pierce is holding onto a job but I haven't seen him work in years unless walking across campus and playing tennis are part of his jobs.

For those that think we belong at the top of the Southland, we don't. For those that think our facilities are on par, you heard it from one of the old guys and haven't really looked around. Central Arkansas has an indoor facility and complex that is very impressive. It doesn't have paint pealing, light fixtures hanging, stained carpets or cobwebs from my days (mid 80's). I'm going to write another post because I'm so aggravated, not at the coaches, not at the players; but at the leadership and lack there of that is in place at my Alma mater. The thought that any of you can look at the facilities and think it compares to anyone other than Nicholls means you don't have an eye for any evaluation, much less the evaluation of talent on a football field.

I honestly don't feel bad for the coaches, they will get new jobs. Peveto is making a nice chunk of change. I feel bad for the people that played their hearts out in the early 80's and through the 90's and the leadership of Dr. Webb, Jerry Pierce and Greg Burke have left it in shambles. The coaches will move on and some will become great and we will make up stories on how good they were when they were here. It just awful that I don't have the same pride in my alma mater that I once had for Sam Goodwin. That's not Stoker's fault, Peveto's promise, or Thomas' problem. It's a direct reflection of the leadership of the athletic department.

And those comparing us to Rebowe and Nicholls, they took transfers to start over the kids they had. They continue to take transfers that have records of domestic violence and alcohol/drug related issues. I heard Mr. John Shaugnessey inform another alum Mr. Butch that, "I like Coach Thomas because he won't take thugs like that, we are going to win the right way." and Mr. Butch agreed. Him and his group of people changed their story this passed year as he told me, "I'll come back to games when we win again."

We ask them to take every kid we recommend, we ask them to get the best coach we can for the dollar amount, we ask the athletes to buy into a over-hyped run down dump that once was home to some really fierce football. Bebe sent his kid to McNeese. Northwestern was his only offer for the longest. But as Bebe told a friend of mine that played with him, "My boy ain't going to be a Demon... EVER! I like Jay, but I wouldn't send any transfers there and I ain't sending my boys there either." And we welcome him into town for an event and let him tell us all great stories of LSU's spring and we eat it up and sing the fight song. "Geaux ye demons!!!" I think we would be better off to just join the SWAC.

[TexasDemon]

Nice unprovoked attack on me lol. You're right though. I typically spent 7-8 hours a week in the gym and at least 15+ hours a week on this message board.

Stay classy, champ.

[NSU2003]

I'm not going to take up for the coaches...I don't know any of them, I don't know how to coach, I'm not a coach nor did I even play sports. Like you, I'm just a loyal Demon...second generation, too. I can say the university has $1,000,000+ in deferred maintenance that they just can't afford to pay for...much less the needs of the athletic department. The higher education climate in Louisiana the past almost decade had been deplorable, and I believe from a facilities/pay standpoint you're seeing the effects, university wide.

LSU has over a billion dollars in deferred maintenance...and they're the "Golden Calf" of Louisiana!

I like your insight...I'm not the type of person to settle for just "ok" or "good enough". That's why I was so excited to have Dr. Henderson. He was change and leadership that we needed and wasn't a homegrown homer that'd been working at NSU for 20 years prior. I like Maggio but I'm afraid it's going to be Webb 2.0 and back to the same ol, same ol...

[NSU2003]

Jun 21, 2017 21:01:43 GMT DemonDawgDays said:

The issue is both. First, the weight room sucks. It was good for us in the 80's and through the 90's. A graduate assistant a few years back actually earned extra cash from Peveto to refinish the plyo boxes in the weight room. Thomas just had the locker room fixed, had issues with staff. That carpet wasn't changed since the early 2000's. That's terrible for any carpet, but especially the diseases that they found on them several years ago. I think Tammie Pezant and Chuck Bourge ran tests on them, told Greg they needed replaced. Short time after Chuck was fired and carpet was left. The strength program hasn't been given the proper authority it deserves. They have to hire young people because the salary is so low and insignificant it doesn't work. Going back to Joe Long's days I had not seen a player truly develop into much more than he already was. Some of that comes with the nutrition that they can't offer. The rest comes from players like demons16 who probably spend more time on a message board than in the gym.

The injuries that have been sustained are a reflection of the workout program as well as the training department. Jason is probably the worst I've seen at any school and that includes when my nephews played at Louisiana College. They can't keep kids healthy, they have poor diagnosis of injuries and it's just awful. It's a wonder they even have wraps or ice bags. Seems to me the new Dr. isn't doing anyone any favors either. Miss Haley told a group of us that he had two incidents where the surgeries were fumbled. One football player re-injured/tore his knee up again and then we all know what happened to Jalen West. Direct reflection of poor choices by Greg Burke and the whole athletic department.

The coaches evaluation of talent goes back to the salaries offered. You get what you pay for. Thomas' salary is at the BOTTOM of the Southland. Nicholls pays their guy $20,000 more and you'll never catch Rebowe driving his own car or some wrecked ass jeep with fishing poles in the back. And yes Manley as the recruiting coordinator is awful. Heard from several coaches in North Louisiana that they only hear from him when camps are up. May also be why the kid in Shreveport isn't offered. I just hope he is a better OC than odd ball Norton. Norton may be a good coach, but I can see why he struggles with women. His play calling is questionable.

It is also apparent that everyone that is a Demon thinks their children need to be a Demon too or their nephew or their neighborhood athlete needs to be at Northwestern. I hear it from friends all the time, "If they would just offer my #&$^#*@, we would win." If I hear Almonds grandpa say one more time, "If James David was starting they would be scoring points." He must have missed the game where he put everything he had into a throw and it landed 10 yards too short. I wanted to bring a transfer in or pull T-Kenny's redshirt last season. Blumenthal's best decision was to leave the program. Yeah Manley you are hot garbage.

I have seen some progress in certain position groups, but until the players have a weightroom fit for a D1 program (Ours was, but it has fallen behind on account from the lack of support given to its upkeep by the administration). The players need reliable medical attention. I like Jason, little weird, but he sucks at his job and the new surgeon is not on Leddy's level. For what you pay the coaches you are getting a bargain out of some and losing very little by paying the others. Jerry Pierce is holding onto a job but I haven't seen him work in years unless walking across campus and playing tennis are part of his jobs.

For those that think we belong at the top of the Southland, we don't. For those that think our facilities are on par, you heard it from one of the old guys and haven't really looked around. Central Arkansas has an indoor facility and complex that is very impressive. It doesn't have paint pealing, light fixtures hanging, stained carpets or cobwebs from my days (mid 80's). I'm going to write another post because I'm so aggravated, not at the coaches, not at the players; but at the leadership and lack there of that is in place at my Alma mater. The thought that any of you can look at the facilities and think it compares to anyone other than Nicholls means you don't have an eye for any evaluation, much less the evaluation of talent on a football field.

I honestly don't feel bad for the coaches, they will get new jobs. Peveto is making a nice chunk of change. I feel bad for the people that played their hearts out in the early 80's and through the 90's and the leadership of Dr. Webb, Jerry Pierce and Greg Burke have left it in shambles. The coaches will move on and some will become great and we will make up stories on how good they were when they were here. It just awful that I don't have the same pride in my alma mater that I once had for Sam Goodwin. That's not Stoker's fault, Peveto's promise, or Thomas' problem. It's a direct reflection of the leadership of the athletic department.

And those comparing us to Rebowe and Nicholls, they took transfers to start over the kids they had. They continue to take transfers that have records of domestic violence and alcohol/drug related issues. I heard Mr. John Shaugnessey inform another alum Mr. Butch that, "I like Coach Thomas because he won't take thugs like that, we are going to win the right way." and Mr. Butch agreed. Him and his group of people changed their story this passed year as he told me, "I'll come back to games when we win again."

We ask them to take every kid we recommend, we ask them to get the best coach we can for the dollar amount, we ask the athletes to buy into a over-hyped run down dump that once was home to some really fierce football. Bebe sent his kid to McNeese. Northwestern was his only offer for the longest. But as Bebe told a friend of mine that played with him, "My boy ain't going to be a Demon... EVER! I like Jay, but I wouldn't send any transfers there and I ain't sending my boys there either." And we welcome him into town for an event and let him tell us all great stories of LSU's spring and we eat it up and sing the fight song. "Geaux ye demons!!!" I think we would be better off to just join the SWAC.

Don't forget...Gary Reasons's kid went to nicholls

[Cajundemon11]

Jun 21, 2017 21:01:43 GMT DemonDawgDays said:

The issue is both. First, the weight room sucks. It was good for us in the 80's and through the 90's. A graduate assistant a few years back actually earned extra cash from Peveto to refinish the plyo boxes in the weight room. Thomas just had the locker room fixed, had issues with staff. That carpet wasn't changed since the early 2000's. That's terrible for any carpet, but especially the diseases that they found on them several years ago. I think Tammie Pezant and Chuck Bourge ran tests on them, told Greg they needed replaced. Short time after Chuck was fired and carpet was left. The strength program hasn't been given the proper authority it deserves. They have to hire young people because the salary is so low and insignificant it doesn't work. Going back to Joe Long's days I had not seen a player truly develop into much more than he already was. Some of that comes with the nutrition that they can't offer. The rest comes from players like demons16 who probably spend more time on a message board than in the gym.

The injuries that have been sustained are a reflection of the workout program as well as the training department. Jason is probably the worst I've seen at any school and that includes when my nephews played at Louisiana College. They can't keep kids healthy, they have poor diagnosis of injuries and it's just awful. It's a wonder they even have wraps or ice bags. Seems to me the new Dr. isn't doing anyone any favors either. Miss Haley told a group of us that he had two incidents where the surgeries were fumbled. One football player re-injured/tore his knee up again and then we all know what happened to Jalen West. Direct reflection of poor choices by Greg Burke and the whole athletic department.

The coaches evaluation of talent goes back to the salaries offered. You get what you pay for. Thomas' salary is at the BOTTOM of the Southland. Nicholls pays their guy $20,000 more and you'll never catch Rebowe driving his own car or some wrecked ass jeep with fishing poles in the back. And yes Manley as the recruiting coordinator is awful. Heard from several coaches in North Louisiana that they only hear from him when camps are up. May also be why the kid in Shreveport isn't offered. I just hope he is a better OC than odd ball Norton. Norton may be a good coach, but I can see why he struggles with women. His play calling is questionable.

It is also apparent that everyone that is a Demon thinks their children need to be a Demon too or their nephew or their neighborhood athlete needs to be at Northwestern. I hear it from friends all the time, "If they would just offer my #&$^#*@, we would win." If I hear Almonds grandpa say one more time, "If James David was starting they would be scoring points." He must have missed the game where he put everything he had into a throw and it landed 10 yards too short. I wanted to bring a transfer in or pull T-Kenny's redshirt last season. Blumenthal's best decision was to leave the program. Yeah Manley you are hot garbage.

I have seen some progress in certain position groups, but until the players have a weightroom fit for a D1 program (Ours was, but it has fallen behind on account from the lack of support given to its upkeep by the administration). The players need reliable medical attention. I like Jason, little weird, but he sucks at his job and the new surgeon is not on Leddy's level. For what you pay the coaches you are getting a bargain out of some and losing very little by paying the others. Jerry Pierce is holding onto a job but I haven't seen him work in years unless walking across campus and playing tennis are part of his jobs.

For those that think we belong at the top of the Southland, we don't. For those that think our facilities are on par, you heard it from one of the old guys and haven't really looked around. Central Arkansas has an indoor facility and complex that is very impressive. It doesn't have paint pealing, light fixtures hanging, stained carpets or cobwebs from my days (mid 80's). I'm going to write another post because I'm so aggravated, not at the coaches, not at the players; but at the leadership and lack there of that is in place at my Alma mater. The thought that any of you can look at the facilities and think it compares to anyone other than Nicholls means you don't have an eye for any evaluation, much less the evaluation of talent on a football field.

I honestly don't feel bad for the coaches, they will get new jobs. Peveto is making a nice chunk of change. I feel bad for the people that played their hearts out in the early 80's and through the 90's and the leadership of Dr. Webb, Jerry Pierce and Greg Burke have left it in shambles. The coaches will move on and some will become great and we will make up stories on how good they were when they were here. It just awful that I don't have the same pride in my alma mater that I once had for Sam Goodwin. That's not Stoker's fault, Peveto's promise, or Thomas' problem. It's a direct reflection of the leadership of the athletic department.

And those comparing us to Rebowe and Nicholls, they took transfers to start over the kids they had. They continue to take transfers that have records of domestic violence and alcohol/drug related issues. I heard Mr. John Shaugnessey inform another alum Mr. Butch that, "I like Coach Thomas because he won't take thugs like that, we are going to win the right way." and Mr. Butch agreed. Him and his group of people changed their story this passed year as he told me, "I'll come back to games when we win again."

We ask them to take every kid we recommend, we ask them to get the best coach we can for the dollar amount, we ask the athletes to buy into a over-hyped run down dump that once was home to some really fierce football. Bebe sent his kid to McNeese. Northwestern was his only offer for the longest. But as Bebe told a friend of mine that played with him, "My boy ain't going to be a Demon... EVER! I like Jay, but I wouldn't send any transfers there and I ain't sending my boys there either." And we welcome him into town for an event and let him tell us all great stories of LSU's spring and we eat it up and sing the fight song. "Geaux ye demons!!!" I think we would be better off to just join the SWAC.

You're right. We should just fold the program, close down the school and bulldoze the entire campus into a trash heap. Whole place is a dump and doesn't even deserve to be a university. Not even sure we are even talking about such a piece of shit school. 

[DemonDawgDays]

CajunDemon you make a great point. If a tornado hit the school and took out everything except the pillars we could rebuild. The newest building is the Presidents office. Take a stroll around campus and just really take in the eyesores. The bricks were fixed, but the roads look awful. I've been in buildings where the lights are needing changed, the tiles are broken or falling out. This isn't just the field house folks, this is classrooms. The gifted program building has a penis drawn in the dust that hasn't been cleaned in three years. There are sections of fence around that whole place that just look bad.

DTNSU, you couldn't have hit the nail on the head more than you did right there. Dr. Henderson was exciting and he brought change and new innovation and he wanted things to look sharp. He made that scoreboard and endzone look like more than just a hill of weeds and rarely cut hedges. He had a vision and like most of the underpaid and under appreciated successes that come from NSU, he is gone.

Speaking of kids going places that reminds me, Bobby's son was a QB at Nicholls. Heck, Henderson's kid is going to ULL. Maggio's child followed Greg's kid to LaTech. It's bad when your children don't care to attend the school that pays for them to go to college elsewhere. I love my Alma Mater, I give to Demons Unlimited, I support as much as I can afford too and the reality is that it needs more than a few can offer. We won't be back at the top because we can't get top talent and we can't recruit kids that we can develop because there isn't enough here to help them.