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Post by Patrick on Mar 8, 2020 16:48:39 GMT
The regular season is done, the Demons finished tied for 4th and were a 4-point play by McNeese with 0.5 seconds left vs Lamar from being the 4 seed in the tournament. In preseason, NSU was picked to finish 12th. Considering there were 8 newcomers and no seniors contributed, I’d chalk this up as a pretty quality year for Coach Mike and crew. Thoughts?
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Post by RedRiverNSU on Mar 11, 2020 13:03:42 GMT
I don’t consider 14-15 a quality year. I consider it below average. Many teams in the SLC had newcomers. Heck, SFA had 9 newcomers and NSU was a splat on their windshield. They’re going to have to make a run in the tournament for me to consider it quality. Could happen but not very likely. I think when we start labeling a year like this as quality, it speaks to how down our program has become.
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Post by RedRiverNSU on Mar 11, 2020 13:09:35 GMT
I don’t consider 14-15 a quality year. I consider it below average. Many teams in the SLC had newcomers. Heck, SFA had 9 newcomers and NSU was a splat on their windshield. They’re going to have to make a run in the tournament for me to consider it quality. Could happen but not very likely. I think when we start labeling a year like this as quality, it speaks to how down our program has become. Also, 3 of the wins were against D3 teams, and we had no ‘quality’ wins against top competition. Yes, I’m glad we didn’t finish 12th, but I’ll say it, we’ve had little or no success for a while. Time for a new direction. |
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Post by jneal318 on Mar 11, 2020 15:12:32 GMT
Can I say this has been a rebound year? Yes. Considering the kids that transferred out and the loss of Ish Lane, this team has proven that Coach Mike still has something left in the tank. 7 of the last 8 losses, the Demons were right there. So this team could easily be 21-8, but I think youth and learning to play together is a factor with 8 newcomers as you mentioned Patrick. I ultimately think that next year will show if we are back or just a middle of the road program in the Southland Conference.
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Post by Always Purple on Mar 11, 2020 18:04:58 GMT
I doubt anyone, especially Coach Mike, considers this a successful year. Still, this was a young team
Which showed potential and signs of improvement. With that said, (and I actually dislike this term and mentality)
NEXt YEAR, should determine if we are moving in the right direction to be where we need to be in the conference.
Actually, a strong showing in the tournament could be an indicator. GO DEMONS!
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Post by NSUTrue on Mar 11, 2020 23:37:52 GMT
The Southland, even with SFA, is still one of the lowest power-rated rated leagues in the nation. Once you get past the top two, really past SFA, the quality of competition and level of play is low. A showing in the tournament would be nice, but a win over TAMCC is really worth nothing in determining the success. Of course, I'll take the win, but we are a long way from turning this thing around to be 'successful'. I tend to believe that it's time to look at how we do things - from the AD on down.
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Post by purplestorm on Mar 12, 2020 0:36:05 GMT
Coach Mike deserves to show what he can do with this group next year. He has everyone back, plus a dynamo guard newcomer that will play and a dynamo guard who has been hurt all year sitting on the bench. Besides, they just beat TAMU-CC handily in the SLC Tournament. Quality year? Best year we've had in five years, so that is quality compared to the recent past. Quality compared to what we've realized the past 20 years? Maybe not. I'll take it, though. Looks like the worm is turning back the other direction. Hopefully.
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Post by Always Purple on Mar 12, 2020 3:04:20 GMT
Coach Mike deserves to show what he can do with this group next year. He has everyone back, plus a dynamo guard newcomer that will play and a dynamo guard who has been hurt all year sitting on the bench
THIS———
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Post by seat16demon on Mar 22, 2020 21:22:44 GMT
I agree with Patrick and disagree with several of you here. This was a year of quality improvement in several areas, thus it was a quality year. Go Demons!
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Post by Patrick on Mar 26, 2020 18:50:14 GMT
As the only guy on this board who has personally seen every game the Demons have played for this last tough stretch, I can tell you that this was a quality year. They had to rebuild and hit on almost all of the newcomers. They lose 2% of their scoring from this year's team so next year could be special
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Post by RedRiverNSU on Mar 27, 2020 9:48:34 GMT
Hate to tell you, glad we won, but TAMCC is not a quality team. Their win against SFA was a fluke and caught SFA on their one bad night. you might say they were the Southland’s Evansville. I hope you’re right about turning it around, but this has been a ‘wait til next year effort’ for 10 years now. SFA, Sam, ACU, they’re not going away. We’re not HBU thank God, but we’ve gone from being good at one point a while back to now being thrilled just to make the conference tournament. You may have seen every NSU game, but you didn’t see every game of the many teams better than us, they aren’t going anywhere and their recruiting is way better, and they didn’t have all their roster playing on every night-so our reasons of why we will be better are the same as other teams above us who will be better. Do t think for a minute they haven’t already replaced their talented seniors with talented transfers. They recruit way better than us because of success. This is the last ten years of conference play, we’re subpar, I don’t see us moving up anytime soon. It’s time for a change if we ever want to get back to the top.
Seasons Won Lost Pct
SFA 10 142 36 .798
UT-Arlington 2 22 10 .688
Sam Houston St. 10 114 64 .640
Oral Roberts 2 23 13 .639
UT-San Antonio 2 19 13 .594
Texas A&M-CC 10 95 83 .534
Nicholls 10 89 89 .500
Northwestern St. 10 88 90 .494
SE Louisiana 10 87 91 .489
New Orleans 7 61 67 .477
Texas State 2 15 17 .469
Abilene Christian 7 58 66 .468
McNeese 10 79 99 .444
Lamar 10 77 101 .433
Incarnate Word 7 46 77 .374
Houston Baptist 7 45 83 .352
Central Arkansas 10 58 120 .326
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Post by demonsgoon on Mar 29, 2020 3:54:37 GMT
Hate to tell you, glad we won, but TAMCC is not a quality team. Their win against SFA was a fluke and caught SFA on their one bad night. you might say they were the Southland’s Evansville. I hope you’re right about turning it around, but this has been a ‘wait til next year effort’ for 10 years now. SFA, Sam, ACU, they’re not going away. We’re not HBU thank God, but we’ve gone from being good at one point a while back to now being thrilled just to make the conference tournament. You may have seen every NSU game, but you didn’t see every game of the many teams better than us, they aren’t going anywhere and their recruiting is way better, and they didn’t have all their roster playing on every night-so our reasons of why we will be better are the same as other teams above us who will be better. Do t think for a minute they haven’t already replaced their talented seniors with talented transfers. They recruit way better than us because of success. This is the last ten years of conference play, we’re subpar, I don’t see us moving up anytime soon. It’s time for a change if we ever want to get back to the top. Seasons Won Lost Pct SFA 10 142 36 .798 UT-Arlington 2 22 10 .688 Sam Houston St. 10 114 64 .640 Oral Roberts 2 23 13 .639 UT-San Antonio 2 19 13 .594 Texas A&M-CC 10 95 83 .534 Nicholls 10 89 89 .500 Northwestern St. 10 88 90 .494 SE Louisiana 10 87 91 .489 New Orleans 7 61 67 .477 Texas State 2 15 17 .469 Abilene Christian 7 58 66 .468 McNeese 10 79 99 .444 Lamar 10 77 101 .433 Incarnate Word 7 46 77 .374 Houston Baptist 7 45 83 .352 Central Arkansas 10 58 120 .326 Don’t think anybody was “thrilled” about making the conference tournament but at the same time there’s nothing wrong with being happy about it. And NSU wouldn’t be the first team to be up, then down and then get back up again. Patrick may not have seen all of the other teams but I’d venture to say that he’s seen more Southland basketball than anyone else on this board so I for one am not going to be dismissive of his perspective. |
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Post by Patrick on Apr 2, 2020 19:32:57 GMT
Hate to tell you, glad we won, but TAMCC is not a quality team. Their win against SFA was a fluke and caught SFA on their one bad night. you might say they were the Southland’s Evansville. I hope you’re right about turning it around, but this has been a ‘wait til next year effort’ for 10 years now. SFA, Sam, ACU, they’re not going away. We’re not HBU thank God, but we’ve gone from being good at one point a while back to now being thrilled just to make the conference tournament. You may have seen every NSU game, but you didn’t see every game of the many teams better than us, they aren’t going anywhere and their recruiting is way better, and they didn’t have all their roster playing on every night-so our reasons of why we will be better are the same as other teams above us who will be better. Do t think for a minute they haven’t already replaced their talented seniors with talented transfers. They recruit way better than us because of success. This is the last ten years of conference play, we’re subpar, I don’t see us moving up anytime soon. It’s time for a change if we ever want to get back to the top. Seasons Won Lost Pct SFA 10 142 36 .798 Sam Houston St. 10 114 64 .640 Texas A&M-CC 10 95 83 .534 Nicholls 10 89 89 .500 Northwestern St. 10 88 90 .494 SE Louisiana 10 87 91 .489 New Orleans 7 61 67 .477 Abilene Christian 7 58 66 .468 McNeese 10 79 99 .444 Lamar 10 77 101 .433 Incarnate Word 7 46 77 .374 Houston Baptist 7 45 83 .352 Central Arkansas 10 58 120 .326 Man there is a lot to unpack here. First, I removed the former SLC members from your list because you are comparing two years to 10. We basically are tied for the 4th best winning pct over the last 10 years (1 game over 10 years behind Nicholls). I think you are actually proving my point for me here. And that's despite a few down years recently. Also I would be very interested in how you know other teams are out-recruiting us or are more talented than we are. Having seen every team last year, I can tell you we were as talented as any of them, including SFA. And that's all without any seniors on the squad. I am also unsure what us playing "all of our roster every single night" has to do with this. If you just don't like McConathy or his style, feel free to say it. But finishing the season tied for 4th in the standings is a quality year in my book, especially when you were picked in the bottom three preseason and were debuting an almost brand new roster. |
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