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Post by purplestorm on Sept 13, 2015 15:04:31 GMT
Let's think this out (preaching to myself). We lose Zach Adkins, Austin Douglas, Bryant Mitchell, Corey Simmons, Damon Medcafe, Deon Simon, Marion Chapman, Fred Thomas and Imoan Claiborne off last year's team and we think we're going to be good this year? Simon and Claiborne are in the NFL, as well, so that kind of talent can't be replaced in one year. After last season and knowing there were many holes to fill, Jay goes out and brings in two transfer QB's, Blumenthal and Rivers, a transfer OL, Hussey, a transfer CB, Green, two transfer LB's, Perry and Stephens and three transfer DL, Thomas, Batiste and Featherston. To boot, dynamo LB, Walton, from Nebraska, was dismissed from the team in August and dynamo RB, Green, is redshirting this season. Plus, Adam Jones can't play the first two games and Jamarcus Marshall, DE, is still working himself back into playing shape. That's a heck of a lot to overcome AND play SLU, ULL and Mississippi State to figure out. We're going to be fine and quite frankly, our two Sophomore QB's, Blumenthal and Almond, show me the future is bright. Have patience, men ... patience and watch Jay Thomas fully revive this football program. He has had to break even with Peveto's players the past two season. That's tough enough, but rebuilding a program his way from the ground up takes four or five years at our level. Unless you cheat and Jay, thankfully, isn't doing it that way.
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Post by Cajundemon11 on Sept 13, 2015 16:16:02 GMT
I am getting a little tired of saying " in a few years this team will be a force" because if we pull up old threads thats what we were saying in Jay's first year, but you're right. I failed to realize how many players we lost off of last years team.
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Sept 13, 2015 17:01:27 GMT
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Post by purplestorm on Sept 13, 2015 17:01:27 GMT
If anything, we underperformed last season. This season should have always been one of "lesser expectations."
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Post by NSU2003 on Sept 13, 2015 17:16:00 GMT
If anything, we underperformed last season. This season should have always been one of "lesser expectations." I'm just tired of not being able to put ALL the pieces together in the same season. Something is always missing in the equation to make us get over the hump. If that makes sense...
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Post by NSU2003 on Sept 13, 2015 17:18:34 GMT
If anything, we underperformed last season. This season should have always been one of "lesser expectations." I wholeheartedly agree. Last year was the year that we should've/could've finally made it back to the playoffs. We had all the pieces in place to do so but for whatever reason couldn't transfer it to W's.
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Post by Cajundemon11 on Sept 13, 2015 22:16:49 GMT
It feels like a broken record, its the same thing every freaking season. Next year, next year, 2 years from now, a couple more recruiting classes. Its been the same discussions for the past 5+ seasons about how we need to be patient. Im just tired of it, yea we lost some players, well apparently we haven't recruited well at all because no one is coming in and we still look like we don't belong on the same field as teams like ULL. I can promise you Sam houston plays ULL down to the wire. They lose players and reload, McNeese plugs in guys and they win. Im really losing my patience with this process, because we are going to be in this same exact position next year and saying "hold on we'll get there…lets beef up this front 7 and we can get back to winning more" Well we haven't and I just don't see it happening. 3 recruiting classes in and we have a 5'9" starting defensive tackle and 2 linebackers around the same size. There's a reason why McGuire barely got touched all night, its because those guys are getting driven 10 yards deep and creating wholes I could drive my car through. It's just infuriating looking back at how freaking big and tough our defense was and now I just watch us and pray that the other team goofs up when they have the ball because we can't stop them. Its embarrassing, its freaking embarrassing to see that against a team that maybe we shouldn't beat, but sure as shit shouldn't be getting 10 yards a carry. Cajun fans were consoling us and feeling sorry for us after the game and it was humiliating. I appreciated the gesture, but I can remember going in that stadium and beating them and now we don't even look like we belong on the same field.
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Post by purplestorm on Sept 13, 2015 22:36:23 GMT
Cajuns fans have been consoled plenty, don't you worry. They have had some really bad runs in their history. SLU is one of the best two teams in our conference, at least they have been, and ULL has had a good run for the past three/four years. Then we have Mississippi State. I mean, the best we could hope for is 1-2 after that three-game stretch, even with last year's team. I look at this thing like life. Sometimes you're high and things are great and then all of a sudden ... BAM!!! Then you're down and out for little while, quite awhile or a long time depending on the circumstances. Recovery is commensurate with how long you're down and out, too. And everyone takes their turn at this process, by the way. We should take solace in the fact that Jay won't be recruiting too many 5'9" guys in the future. I can promise you ... unless they're a RB or WR. Yes, Sam might give ULL a better game, but no guarantee they would beat them as Kentucky knocking off South Carolina last night proves ULL is a lot better than most thought they would be. Finally, Sam and SLU take LOTS of transfers to keep them in the upper rung of the SLC and in the FCS playoffs, but that's not always a guarantee for success. What SLC team is the last to win a FCS/I-AA NC? NLU! So, it doesn't look like anyone in the SLC has been good enough since. McNeese and Sam have gotten real close. SFA, too, but no one has held up that trophy since Stan Humphries in 1987.
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Post by Cajundemon11 on Sept 13, 2015 22:59:47 GMT
Florida tech held SLU to 167 yards rushing last night. Southeastern needed 3 defensive touchdowns just to win the game. I'm sorry that doesn't bode well for us.
We can rag on SLU and Sam for taking in a crap ton of transfers all we want but they're the ones hoisting the trophy at the end of the season.
My point: We say this same exact thing every year and its just getting old. I guess I have to accept the fact that we just have a mediocre football program and that's it.
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Sept 13, 2015 23:15:32 GMT
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Post by demon4life on Sept 13, 2015 23:15:32 GMT
Im sick of excuses. It was bad sat nite and bad last sat nite. Fla tech shuts down slu and they lost to newberry last week. Slu is not that good and truthfully ull is very beatable...just not by us. We were told we finally had size and depth on the dline and oline. Who is the qb and what is the offense? Isnt it time we knew that and were moving forward with something? UCA will be the biggest game of the season. It has to be a win or it will be a long long season.
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Post by purplestorm on Sept 13, 2015 23:28:03 GMT
If you're not hoisting the FCS NC trophy at the end of the season it doesn't matter. There's only ONE winner in FCS. Period. Everything else is fun and we love it, but means absolutely nothing in the "official" scheme of things. FBS has the "almost everyone can play for a trophy" at the end of the year. I don't mean to be difficult, but this is THE truth. 6-5 is 5-6 ... 7-4 is 4-7 ... 8-3 is 3-8 ... 9-2 is 2-9 ... 10-1 is 1-10 ... and 11-0 is 0-11 when the year is done if you're not holding the NC trophy. Sure, it "feels" better to "win," but that's not really what we gauge as ultimate success on our level. We don't have a bowl to play for at the end of the year. If you don't believe this to be true, what has our limited playoff success gotten us? Does anyone, other than their own fans and a few others, remember Towson, Sam Houston and Illinois State from the past few championship games? Do they remember Colgate, Furman, N. Iowa, McNeese, William & Mary or any other team that's been there but never won one from their losses in Chattanooga? Maybe I'm the only one seeing it this way, but basing it on 6, 7 or 8 wins is just like comparing who has the nicest car or truck. It makes for good and fun conversation, but means nothing. In the end, I'm going to relax now and see what happens and give Jay the benefit of the doubt. If in two years, we're sitting in the same place, well, then we have legitimate concerns and issues. I think we'll be fine, though. I could be wrong, however, and we're all entitled to our opinion. No disrespect intended ... at all.
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Post by Cajundemon11 on Sept 13, 2015 23:37:54 GMT
So are you basically saying that Nicholls at 0-11 had the same year that Sam did who went to the semifinals??? Ask the recruits if it matters, ask the fans, ask the boosters, ask the students, ask the athletic department staff, ask the PLAYERS, ask the coaches…
We're talking about our issues and our football program. I don't see how saying "it all doesn't matter because we're FCS" is relevant. Think about the crowd that we would have if we were playing McNeese late in the year and were both ranked in the top 10. That would be a sellout and would be revenue for the program. I really don't know where you were going with that but it certainly does matter.
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Post by demon4life on Sept 13, 2015 23:38:12 GMT
I TOTALLY disagree. 3-8 or 8-3 no difference if you dont win the national championship??? Sure makes recruiting easier and fans happier if you are winning and have something to be proud of. Ask the players if they would rather be 3-8 or 8-3 even if you dont win the national championship.
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Post by purplestorm on Sept 13, 2015 23:50:20 GMT
Everyone is going to disagree with me and rightfully so. I would love to be 8-3 or better every season. I truly was only trying to prove a point that "in the end" all that matters is who wins it all. That's a fact. Everything else is judged by fan bases and that is opinion only. Yes, it matters, but it doesn't. I'm not trying to be difficult. I promise. Just trying to get us to think and relax. I can't speak for you gentlemen, but I'll be dadgum if I'm going to let 18-22 year-old young men ruin another day for me. Ever. Life is too short for that bullsh*t. But, I can only speak for me.
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Post by purplestorm on Sept 13, 2015 23:52:58 GMT
Cajun, I didn't see your post until I responded. I apologize. No, it's not the same and you're absolutely right. But, at the end of the year, neither of those teams can be called a true champion of FCS. The only thing separating them on paper are wins and losses. That's all I'm saying. Maybe I'm doing a poor job of getting my point across. I'm sorry.
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Post by purplestorm on Sept 14, 2015 0:10:08 GMT
Here is what I'm trying to say ... "it would be nice if we could sit back, relax, let the coaches do their jobs, support the team(s) as we can and stay loyal no matter what happens." Now, I'm preaching to the choir here, and I want our program to be a Top 25 FCS program year-in and year-out, but we're not yet there. It's obvious we have work to do, but giving up or getting frustrated or even finding a new coach will not expedite our goals. So, to prove a point I took the plumb line from successful programs to there being only one winner at the end of the year. That's all I was trying to do. Later!
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