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Post by NSU2003 on Mar 16, 2019 13:16:55 GMT
The kid that was a long time assistant at NSU under McConathy is in the SLC championship game...again.
We really need to get our shit together.
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Post by 606Demon on Mar 16, 2019 13:46:24 GMT
Do you realistically see things changing? Seems like the University is satisfied with the status quo.
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Post by DemonX on Mar 16, 2019 14:29:31 GMT
Good for Sless! Glad to see things trending up again.
NSU’s problem will always be salary; you remove Coach Mike and you have to pay for a quality replacement. You saw what happens with a big name retread. Once you find the guy you have to keep throwing money into the program for raises, amenities, and so on. And even then it might not be enough to Keep someone.
The problem with men’s hoops is roster continuity. Coach Mike is constantly having to mix in New pieces because guys leave for whatever Reasons. That’s one thing that it appears Sless has managed to develop at UNO: guys stay and develop.
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Post by 606Demon on Mar 16, 2019 15:10:23 GMT
DemonX......its the chicken or the egg arguement. Maybe some guys are leaving because they feel the commitment, from the school, is not there. There seems to be no accountability when it comes to the coaches and A.D. Where is the uproar over the teams performance the last 5 years? Nobody is making a big deal cause nobody cares. Look at fan attendance. Comparing current attendance with say 6 or 7 years ago. I think a lot of players feel and see that. Most coaches would have been gone by now OR at least on the "hot seat". At least if he was on the hot seat some guys may go above and beyond, in regards to effort, to keep him there.
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Post by 606Demon on Mar 16, 2019 15:10:51 GMT
DemonX......its the chicken or the egg arguement. Maybe some guys are leaving because they feel the commitment, from the school, is not there. There seems to be no accountability when it comes to the coaches and A.D. Where is the uproar over the teams performance the last 5 years? Nobody is making a big deal cause nobody cares. Look at fan attendance. Comparing current attendance with say 6 or 7 years ago. I think a lot of players feel and see that. Most coaches would have been gone by now OR at least on the "hot seat". At least if he was on the hot seat some guys may go above and beyond, in regards to effort, to keep him there.
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Post by NSU2003 on Mar 16, 2019 16:30:57 GMT
I think part of the problem is Coach Mike is trying to run offensives and defenses that we simply do not have the players to run anymore...which that's what he knows but at some point we need to adapt.
I think the bigger issue is player retention is so bad...so we have these recruits that don't pan out or even make it to their junior season...we don't have the strong leadership from upperclassmen (on and off the court). Last season was awful...you see these players that could help us have a winning record just quit school or one of the best freshmen recruits we've had in a long time just not show up for half the season and one of our seniors just bail.
Both basketball teams are in shambles right now. Never did I think I would ever see the mens team in such trouble. The women have been through 3 coaches in 10 years and now all-conference freshmen is transferring...most likely because we didn't make the SLC tournament or because she doesn't want to be apart of a losing team the next three seasons.
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Post by 606Demon on Mar 16, 2019 17:41:39 GMT
Yeah I've been saying that in regards to running a system for which we don't have the personnel. Not sure why coach continues to try and run the wave. Hasn't worked in years. I'll give him some credit for abandoning it in conference play this year BUT that was waaaayyyy too late. I think they need a fresh new voice. Even if that voice is Coach Moore. I also think under the current system you'll continue to see departures.
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Post by DemonX on Mar 16, 2019 19:20:10 GMT
The wave assures guys get playing time, but It’s at the expense of continuity. It is compromised if guys in either wave get too many fouls, and forces guys who don’t normally play together to accommodate an unfamiliar insertion.
If you want new voices it might be time to shuffle the assistants. Coach Mike is a fixture and, really, does everything except win recently.
Can anyone offer any insight into why guys quit, especially the seniors two years ago? I know West wasn’t academically gifted (he was a Prop), but he got it together despite all the injuries.
If it were me counseling Coach; I’d suggest going back to the formula that had the biggest success. Recruit a core group of guys, baptize ‘em in Fire, and see if they can grow up together for a run in years 3 and 4. You have some pieces already in place.
Football pretty much runs the show in the region, I’d venture baseball and track are the next two in importance. Anything you get out of the other sports is gravy. If you want to get more out of hoops on both courts there needs to be some investment. And that would start with either saying you’re gonna stick with a coach through lean times or put up with losing someone successful every few years.
If you go for replacements, they should be head coaches taking lateral or slightly upwards moves. Hiring a hot assistant is a crap shoot (look at women’s hoops). Retreads rarely work out (e.g. Billy Kennedy’s name shouldn’t be in this conversation).
The team’s recent misfortunes tell you, I think, everything you need to know about the viability of the assistants as potential replacements. People forget that Sless left a JC head coaching job to come be an assistant; it’s telling that neither have even been mentioned as being competitive for jobs elsewhere.
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Post by 606Demon on Mar 17, 2019 15:35:34 GMT
I think Coach Moore interviewed for the McNeese job last year.
In regards to Jalen he was dealing with a lot off the court issues. Psychologically I think the issues really effected him. His issue was a one off issue. Not sure why the other senior guard quit after only the 3rd game last year.
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Post by mccauley318 on Mar 17, 2019 23:23:58 GMT
Demons hoops are comfortable with Mike, he doesn’t ask for a raise and the AD doesn’t have to put extra money into the program. The offense is kinda out dated and doesn’t play to the players strengths reasons why they transfer. The kid that left Northwestern State last year to go JucO route just picked up a offer from Memphis. I think it was time to retire Mike a few years ago look at the record he has had the last 5 years and the players leaving the program also. Those are normally red flags with other programs. Mike is the longest tensure coach in the conference and he hasn’t made the conference tournament in the last 4 years.
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Post by 606Demon on Mar 17, 2019 23:47:40 GMT
Couldn't have said it better myself.
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Post by 606Demon on Mar 17, 2019 23:49:36 GMT
Unfortunately I think we can expect more disappointing seasons and more transfers.
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Post by Playher on Mar 18, 2019 22:42:18 GMT
How ironic is it that the winningest coach in Louisana has a losing record!!!, should have fired Coach M a few years ago, has to have one of the weakest staffs in the country. They can't recruit to save there lives, need new arena to.
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Post by 606Demon on Mar 19, 2019 0:06:02 GMT
I think part of the lack of recruiting is related to the poor facilities. There's a reason why schools invest in athletic facilities. From coaching to facilities I dont see the A.D investing much in the basketball programs.
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Post by demonsgoon on Mar 22, 2019 3:00:15 GMT
I think part of the lack of recruiting is related to the poor facilities. There's a reason why schools invest in athletic facilities. From coaching to facilities I dont see the A.D investing much in the basketball programs. Heard this recently - while not at the top because it’s hard to match SFA and Sam Houston money, you might be surprised that the NSU head coaching salary is not at the bottom of the heap as might be presumed. More like middle of the pack. And yeah we need a new arena badly. Money has been invested into trying to “dress up” the coliseum, like the Hall of Fame area that looks much better, but it’s still a very old facility. The program has the budget to travel and recruit as needed and the administration has ponied up for the last few years in cost of attendance stipends for players so the investment is more than one might think.
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