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Post by NSU2003 on Mar 5, 2015 23:21:50 GMT
The Hernesmans have taken positions with Clemson. Good luck to them and we're all very grateful that they not only are leaving the program in better shape than they left it but also took the volleyball program to heights that had never been achieved by NSU. Hoping whoever comes in to replace them can continue and build on what they left behind! There is a very good foundation!
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Post by seat16demon on Mar 19, 2015 3:05:22 GMT
They did a stellar job building a great base. I just hope we can find someone to take the program and keep moving forward.
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Post by Alumnicouple on Mar 23, 2015 16:13:54 GMT
I hear we have a big time coach interested from close by.
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Post by NSU VICtory on Mar 25, 2015 2:26:37 GMT
I hope that they are seeking somebody that is interested in staying long term. Stability is what is needed as the volleyball program continues to build for long term success. The problem with hiring a "big time" coach is that they are probably just looking at us as a temporary stepping stone on the way to something better. I would be more interested in a coach with proven success that might not be as well known that wants to be here for long term success.
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Post by Alumnicouple on Mar 25, 2015 2:48:43 GMT
Well, here's the reality. Almost every coach that is successful and is offered a better paying job is going to take it. Even if they say they are planning on staying "long term". I think we should always get the best applicant. A "big time" coach has the ability to load up the team with high level recruits. If they end up leaving, they leave the program in much better shape. You can never know what a coach is going to do. The best practice is to get the best available.
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Post by NSU VICtory on Mar 25, 2015 3:13:23 GMT
That is not always the case. Look at our own Coach McConathy who has been here for many years which has created a long term stability and growth in our basketball program. Another one that I can think of is Shaka Smart at VCU where it has been known that he has received more lucrative offers, but he has chosen to keep his family in Richmond. I am just saying that sometimes the best available is not necessarily the most impressive resume. The best available is the one that is the best fit for NSU! You basically agree with me that a big time coach will just take off at the next best offer. Maybe there is somebody out there that does not want to constantly move his/her family all over the country, but is legitimately looking for a great long term fit for his/her family and wants to build a solid program for the long term. If he/she has proven success where they are now, they he/she has shown that they know how to recruit high level recruits. We shouldn't just jump at the most impressive resume without doing our due diligence for long term success.
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Post by Alumnicouple on Mar 25, 2015 3:19:28 GMT
My point is you can never know what coach will stay or not. Even if they say they will. That's why you go after the best coach.
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Post by Alumnicouple on Mar 25, 2015 14:31:57 GMT
Found out the coach and his family is originally from Louisiana. Might get both a long term coach and successful coach.
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Post by NSU VICtory on Mar 25, 2015 15:33:35 GMT
That is all well and good. However, you said that this is a "big time" coach. NSU and other smaller DI schools usually see coaches that are trying to get to the "big time". Why would a "big time" coach be wanting to come "down" to NSU as some would look at it? I am guessing that this coach was probably let go from a "big time" job, and is now trying to land on his/her feet someplace. That type of coach is going to want to get back to the "big time" because that is what they had and are used to especially from a financial sense as you mentioned before. I have seen that happen before at other schools, and it usually does not go well for the smaller school that is getting used in this way. That poor school usually can't get any stability and is always looking for a new coach every 3-5 years. Just because they are from Louisiana does not mean much unless they are from Natchitoches (there are lots of places in Louisiana). If that is the case, why wasn't this "big time" coach hired when the Hernesmans were if his/her desire was to return home, and he/she is that good. I just do not think it would be wise to hire somebody that comes from the "big time" at NSU. We are not a "Power 5" school or conference. We should make sure that we are doing what we can to find the best fit for NSU. Somebody that has had success (I 100% agree with that), and is coming to Natchitoches for the desire to continue to build our volleyball program into a consistent force at or near the top of the Southland over the long term. I understand that is difficult to do as the temptation will always be there to jump when the more lucrative offers come. However, I also firmly believe that a coach can be found that exhibits that as long as we are doing our due diligence in the search. My desire is to see all of our teams succeed with a coaching staff that is the best fit for the Demons! Impressive resumes should not be the only thing that we are looking at for our athletic department at NSU! I am confident that Mr. Burke and his staff will do everything they can to find the right individual. I do not believe that they will just jump at the most impressive resume first. If that ends up being the best fit, then so be it. However, I would be weary. It is my hope for the continued success of our volleyball program! #demoNSUnite
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Post by Alumnicouple on Mar 25, 2015 20:14:42 GMT
I run a pretty successful business and our policy is to hire the most qualified person with strong character. It's worked very well for us and most successful business's. From what I've heard this coach has big checks in both categories. I too hope for the best for NSU. Exciting times as NSU!! Mr Burke has done very well!
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Post by Demondealer on Mar 25, 2015 22:03:40 GMT
VICtory you need to check your logic. In your 2nd sentence you say NSU usually see's coaches trying to get to the "big time". Unless you have a crystal ball you can't know if a coach will turn down better offers after being successful, regardless if they are moving up or down. Doesn't sound that complicated. Hire the best coach. It's great news that good coaches are considering NSU. Good things are happening across the board.
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Post by Cajundemon11 on Mar 26, 2015 0:32:06 GMT
Guys, lets just trust that Greg will find the right person. He's hit a home run on his last 4 hires and I think he will select the right person for the job.
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Post by NSU VICtory on Mar 26, 2015 3:19:23 GMT
VICtory you need to check your logic. In your 2nd sentence you say NSU usually see's coaches trying to get to the "big time". Unless you have a crystal ball you can't know if a coach will turn down better offers after being successful, regardless if they are moving up or down. Doesn't sound that complicated. Hire the best coach. It's great news that good coaches are considering NSU. Good things are happening across the board. I don't think you need a crystal ball. I believe that you can get a pretty good idea through a thorough interview process. I agree to hire the best coach. I am just saying that the best resume does not always equal the best coach for a school like us. There has to be a reason that someone would be moving "down" and most of the time it is probably not a great one. I don't want to see us just be the rebound place for coaches. I would rather us hire someone on the rise that is interested in long term success at NSU. As I said, I am confident in Mr. Burke and what he does for his hiring practices. I trust that he will do a thorough job, and we will get the best fit for NSU volleyball, and I am glad that he does not just fill positions with the person has the biggest schools on their resume. He has done a great job of finding people on the rise, and I know that he will do the same here. I am beating a dead horse here now, so I will just sit back and wait and see what happens. #demoNSUnite
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Post by Alumnicouple on Mar 26, 2015 9:56:50 GMT
So do you think his process was a succes with Hugh? Wins conference and bolts. That's the nature of the beast. And the program is better. Like I said you can't know who is going to stay. No hiring process will tell you that.
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Post by Alumnicouple on Mar 26, 2015 10:33:37 GMT
History lesson. Over the past 20 years. Before we hired Hugh. We hired 5 coaches in volleyball. All with severely bad losing seasons. Not 1 winning season! Even with Hugh we only produced 2 winning seasons and like I said he bolted. I seriously hope we don't folow the same hiring process of the last 20 years.
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